barack obama doesn't dell gate. he dominates. and i think both chuck hagel and john kerry may well have to get used to the fact on the big issues, and it should be the president ultimately who makes the big decisions but consequential and effective secretaries of defense and secretaries of state help shape the policy. and that really remains to be seen. in an obama second term. jenna: let's go bigger if we can for a moment. because the questions about the president's relationship with israel, again are one ally in this region, have been a constant questioning over the last four years. now we're going to be in a new term. regardless what happens with senator hagel and whether or not he heads up the pentagon which is expected, what do you i think the damage is of those questioning of our administration and our loyalty to our ally? >> well, i think the reality is if barack obama, and again, this a two-way street. benjamin netanyahu is not an easy guy to get along with. protects the interest of his country. sometimes those diverge wi